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Lunch, Hoesik, and Hallway Conversation — What Flows Through the Informal Channel
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- Youngju Kim
- @fjvbn20031
- Introduction
- 1. An Organization Has Two Information Networks
- 2. What You Actually Lose by Not Participating
- 3. Staying in the Channel While Keeping the Cost Low
- 4. What a Substitute Channel Replaces and What It Does Not
- 5. Hoesik, a Korean-Specific Format
- 6. How to Decline a Drink
- 7. What Hallway Conversation Does, and Remote Work
- 8. One Thing You Can Do Today
- Where This Advice Does Not Apply
- Closing
- Further Reading
Introduction
Advice on this subject usually splits into two camps. One says social life is a skill like any other, and the other says doing the work well is enough.
Neither camp is accurate. The first erases the circumstances of people who cannot absorb the cost, and the second erases a cost that genuinely exists.
What this post is trying to do is not persuade you to participate but make the cost visible. What flows through the informal channel, what exactly you lose by not participating, and whether there is a way to stay in the channel while keeping the cost low. After that, whether to participate is for each person to decide. Deciding to absorb the loss is a completely legitimate choice, and this post is not trying to argue you out of it.
1. An Organization Has Two Information Networks
The difference between the official channel and the informal one is not formality. It is the maturity of the information.
Only settled things go into the official channel. Meeting minutes, announcements, approval documents. Putting something unsettled into a document causes problems later, so structurally the organization cannot do it.
But most of what people actually want to know is the unsettled part. Whether a reorg is being discussed, which project is effectively dead, who looks likely to move where, which proposal has already been reviewed unfavorably upstairs.
None of that can be written down, because it is not settled. So it travels only by mouth. This is not evidence of a bad culture; it is a consequence of the nature of the information. However transparent an organization is, pre-decision information flows through informal paths.
One conclusion falls out here. Without access to the informal channel, you always find out after it has been decided. The difference between knowing after and knowing before is not the amount of information but whether there is time to respond.
2. What You Actually Lose by Not Participating
Writing this accurately matters. Overstate it and you create needless anxiety; understate it and you leave people unable to prepare. Three things are actually lost.
First, pre-decision information. This is what the previous section described. It is the largest of the three. And this loss is hard to see, because the fact that you did not know only becomes apparent afterward.
Second, access. People go to someone they know first when they need a favor. And knowing here does not mean knowing your ability; it means being comfortable striking up a conversation. If you are not on that list, you start from zero every time you need cooperation. It is not that the work fails; it is that each time is a little more expensive.
Third, the narrative. Inside an organization you exist as other people's one-sentence summary of you. That summary is mostly composed in informal settings, and if you are not present, it gets composed without your participation. It is usually not a wrong summary. It is usually a thin one.
To be fair, what is not lost has to be written down too.
Assessment of your ability mostly comes out of the work. Skipping informal settings does not reverse the assessment of your output. A lot of advice exaggerates this part, and it is not accurate. People who have worked alongside you for a while know who actually gets things done.
And a good deal of the information in the informal channel has no value. Rumor, recurring complaints, predictions where nothing ever ends up happening. The person inside the channel is not always better informed. They are just receiving the noise along with it.
3. Staying in the Channel While Keeping the Cost Low
The all-in-or-all-out framing is what makes this subject hard. In reality the middle is wide.
There is one core principle. Regularity matters more than frequency.
People remember others as rules. That person eats lunch with us. That person does not come to evening events. That person leaves early on Fridays. Once you are remembered as a rule, the exceptions do not demand an explanation. Conversely, if you show up occasionally with no rule, every appearance and every absence becomes an event in itself.
So the arrangement that actually works well is this. Pick one form you can sustain, and do only that, consistently. Lunch together twice a week, or coffee whenever someone asks. Fix it in advance and you stop having to judge each time, and once the judgment is gone the drain is gone too.
The second principle is to put the weight on the number of contacts rather than their length. The grounds are in the information structure from the previous section. What flows through the informal channel is pre-decision information, and pre-decision information has a shelf life. Spend three hours together once every three months and everything that flowed during those twelve weeks has already been settled and moved over to the official channel. Run into someone briefly and often, by contrast, and you receive that information while it is still alive.
The same calculation comes out on the access side. What it takes to be remembered as someone easy to approach is not one long conversation but the fact of having spoken recently. And the recently condition expires automatically as time passes.
This matters especially for anyone who finds evening events hard to absorb, because it means a large share of what is lost can be made up with short, frequent contact.
4. What a Substitute Channel Replaces and What It Does Not
Health, childcare, caregiving, religion, constitution, commute distance, cost. There are many reasons an evening event is hard to attend, and all of them are legitimate. So it is better to write down honestly what the alternatives actually do for you.
Lunch. The most valuable alternative. It sits inside working hours, so the additional cost is close to zero, and the density of the conversation is not very different from an evening. What it cannot replace is roughly the kind of talk that only comes out late.
Fifteen minutes of coffee. The highest efficiency for building a point of contact with one specific person. What it cannot replace is the crossing of information that happens when several people are in one place. In a conversation with one person, only what that person knows comes out.
Presence in the online channels. Reacting, asking, and sharing in the team channel, even briefly. In organizations with a high remote share, this replaces a good portion of hallway conversation. What it cannot replace is the talk that is awkward to leave on the record.
Working together itself. With someone you have actually worked with, almost no separate relationship work is needed. It is the surest path; it is only slow, and you cannot pick who it applies to.
A one-on-one request. Just asking for time when you are curious about something. It works remarkably well. Most people like being asked about their own work.
One thing that cannot be replaced has to go at the end, to stay honest. There really are things that only come out when several people are together over drinks for a long stretch. Saying otherwise would be a lie. Whether the value of that talk exceeds the cost you would have to absorb differs from person to person, though, and in most cases it does not.
5. Hoesik, a Korean-Specific Format
Here it has to be said why Western advice cannot be transplanted as it is.
In English-language workplace advice, after-hours gatherings are generally treated as optional. Good if you go, fine if you do not. There are organizations in Korea where that advice works exactly as written, and there are many where it does not.
What makes the difference is the format. Hoesik is the Korean workplace dinner, and it does not map onto the after-work drink that English-language advice has in mind. Hoesik is often put on the calendar as a team event rather than extended as an individual invitation. So not attending reads as not attending a team event rather than as a personal choice. On top of that, it is scheduled as an extension of working hours, and the whole team learns who attended. When those three overlap, it becomes hard to treat as an individual decision.
Put the other way around, Korean advice can be as outdated as Western advice is insufficient. This area has been changing at different speeds in different organizations over the last few years. Some have cut hoesik back, some have moved it to lunch, some have converted it to a format without alcohol, and some are exactly as they were.
So reading your own organization's actual norms comes before any generalization. The method for reading them is observation. Is there someone who does not go? What actually happens to that person? Is the absence remarked on? What is the leader's stance? Watch those four for a few months and the coordinates of your own organization appear.
The point is not that generalizations are wrong, but that a generalization cannot tell you your own organization's coordinates.
6. How to Decline a Drink
Let me make one principle clear before starting. Not drinking is not something that requires an explanation. And the methods in this section are not techniques for enduring pressure well; they are techniques for reducing unnecessary friction. The principle is that the pressure itself should not exist, and none of the methods below legitimizes it.
On that premise, several things actually work.
Do not let the reason become negotiable. This is the most important principle. The longer you explain the reason, the more points there are to argue with. Say you are on medication and they ask which medication; say you have something scheduled tomorrow and they say one glass is fine. A reason is a request for the other person to rule on you, and if you request a ruling you get ruled on.
Prepare one short, repeatable sentence. I do not drink. I will not be drinking today. Then repeat the same sentence, unchanged. Make a new sentence and you get a new rebuttal. Repeating the same sentence three times generally ends it. It feels like it would come across as rude, and in practice the opposite is true. Producing a different excuse each time is the more awkward of the two.
Keep a substitute in your hand. An empty hand gets filled. Water or anything else, a full glass reduces the physical occasion for an offer. Holding a poured glass without emptying it is also a method.
Prepare one sentence that changes the flow. If silence follows the decline, that silence becomes another offer. Decline and immediately raise a different subject, and it ends there.
Decide in advance when you will leave. Pressure generally intensifies as the night goes on. Say at the start what time you will get up, and that moment becomes natural.
And this part is the important one. If you use every one of these methods and the pressure continues, that is not a problem with your delivery. Repeated pressure to drink is a problem for the organization to handle, which is why workplaces have an HR or labor relations function and a reporting procedure. It is worth finding out what procedure exists in your own organization before anything like that happens. Try to solve it by getting better at enduring pressure and the problem stays with the individual.
7. What Hallway Conversation Does, and Remote Work
It is worth looking at why short contact is so efficient.
A meeting has an agenda. With an agenda, nothing outside the agenda comes up. But a large share of genuinely useful information sits outside the agenda. A five-minute conversation in passing has no agenda, so anything can come out, which is what makes it dense.
One more thing. Hallway conversation has a low cost, so the threshold for asking is low too. Questions that require booking a meeting mostly go unasked. Questions you can ask in passing get asked. A good share of the small confirmations moving through an organization are handled on this path.
When this channel disappears under remote work, the whole burden shifts to the official channel. Which is why meetings increase. There are a few ways to substitute: a culture where a short call can be placed without hesitation, the habit of letting progress spill into the team channel, a short regular call with no agenda. None is a complete replacement, but each beats doing nothing.
One thing to add here. In a remote setting, access to the informal channel becomes more unequal. In an office, information reaches you if you happen to be in the same space; remotely, it reaches you only if someone deliberately makes contact. So it ends up flowing only among people who already have a relationship. That is why the information gap widens in remote organizations.
8. One Thing You Can Do Today
Among the people who affect your work, write down one person with whom you currently have no point of contact outside work talk.
One is enough. Then make one fifteen-minute contact with them this month. Lunch, coffee, or a short call — it does not matter. There does not have to be an agenda.
The effect of this exercise is not becoming friends with that person. It is that later, when you have to ask them for something, that conversation will not be the first one.
Where This Advice Does Not Apply
There are organizations where this channel is used as a tool of exclusion. If the setting only opens for a particular gender, age, alma mater, or smoking status, there is no return on the effort to participate. Continuing to strive in front of a door you cannot enter drains time and self-respect together. When that structure is visible, a different calculation is needed instead of the methods in this post. Find another path inside the organization, build a path outside it, or look at the organization itself again. When to Leave and When to Stay covers that calculation.
In a period when recovery comes first, not paying this cost is the right answer. With a health problem, a caregiving load, or a state of burnout, the informal channel can be rebuilt later and your health cannot. The order is clear. And rebuilding the relationships after that period passes is less difficult than people expect.
In remote or distributed organizations, a good deal of this post works differently. Section 7 covered part of it, but in an organization whose members are spread across several countries the shape of the informal channel is itself different. This post was written with an organization sharing one office as the baseline.
And handling this channel well is separate from doing the work well. If reading this post leads you to add a lot of time to relationship management, the time available for the work that the assessment actually rests on goes down. The informal channel is a path for delivering good output, not a substitute for the output. Manage only the path and there will be nothing to deliver.
Finally, one more explicit note about alcohol. No part of this post encourages drinking. It makes no claim that drinking is advantageous for relationships. The methods in section 6 exist so that someone who has decided not to drink can hold that decision, and the position of this post is that a situation requiring technique to hold that decision is itself a problem with the organization.
Closing
The informal channel is neither a good thing nor a bad one. It is a structure that arises because unsettled information has to flow somewhere.
So what has to be judged is not whether to participate but what you are gaining and what you are paying right now. If you have decided not to pay, it is enough to know what you will not receive; if you have decided to pay, pick the cheapest form.
And the cheapest form is usually not dinner but lunch.
Further Reading
- The Structure of Saying No — the sentence structure for setting a boundary, whether about attendance or about work.
- The First 90 Days After a Move — the order in which to read a new organization's norms.
- Not Building a Network When You Need One — the side of this that builds relationships outside the organization.
- Being Good at Conversation — what to actually say during short contact.